Exploitation- Part 2.
As I"ve previously blogged, I've started a porn blog and have been worried about being part of this big exploitation problem of sexuality and objectification. Well, I'm not that worried anymore- at least not to the extent that I once was.
Why? Because I've recently recalled and looked up a conversation on a messageboard with a photographer- and the true, obvious meaning of exploitation has been clearly demonstrated to me. Before I continue, I just have to say that all of the photographers that I've had the pleasure of working with have been just great- there's a reason that I keep on doing nude modeling(which, I might add, I've started up again). This guy is definitely the exception to the rule, as far as I've been able to tell.
I'll try to keep from linking to this guy's site. I enjoy his photography, and he has what looks like a wonderful paysite. I applied to be one of his models- although some of them do stuff like bondage, spread shots, and insertions(none of which I do), I certainly don't have a problem with that. I simply checked off what I do and don't do on the modeling form. A couple days later, I had the wonderful chance to briefly converse with him online on a modeling site where I have a portfolio up. There was a thread critiquing another photographer's work.
Him:
if you cant take criticism you shouldn't ask for it.
remarking tha tsomeone looks like "white trash" is not vulgar. if you and the broad who modelled for you wanna continue in the business ... ya might wanna think about toughening up. she looks like white trash. its a fact. i was not being rude, just honest. your photography loosk like a step down from the stuff they sell at the glamour shots booth at the mall. its a fact. get real with yourself and perhaps one day you'll find a way out of your trailer surroundings.
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honestly ... shooting naked women for a living is difficult and depressing. more often than not these models have suffered past sexual traumas and i get to play the role of counselour for the duration of our shoot. i might have found it fun when i was 18 and horny, but now that ive grown up i dont find enjoyment in exploiting women's sexuality.
Me:
You know, I filled out your form a couple of days ago and was really hoping you'd be willing to shoot me. After reading a couple of choice quotes like the one above, I would never work with you.
Him:
ya know what i find funny. models i reject (you know, i didnt write ya back right?) who then tell me that they're rejecting me.
Me:
I had no idea that you'd rejected me. All I did was apply a couple of days ago. At any rate, looks like your decision not to shoot me works out for the both of us.
Him:
youre an unattractive girl who shouldn't be modelling, of course i rejected you. it amazes me how delusional models can be.
Me:
We all have our own opinions.
It is beyond me how someone can talk about the women he photographs in such a manner. I'd like to thank him for reminding me of the true meaning of exploitation(and general douchebaggery).
Oh, and a picture.
Photography by Bill; March 2006.
Why? Because I've recently recalled and looked up a conversation on a messageboard with a photographer- and the true, obvious meaning of exploitation has been clearly demonstrated to me. Before I continue, I just have to say that all of the photographers that I've had the pleasure of working with have been just great- there's a reason that I keep on doing nude modeling(which, I might add, I've started up again). This guy is definitely the exception to the rule, as far as I've been able to tell.
I'll try to keep from linking to this guy's site. I enjoy his photography, and he has what looks like a wonderful paysite. I applied to be one of his models- although some of them do stuff like bondage, spread shots, and insertions(none of which I do), I certainly don't have a problem with that. I simply checked off what I do and don't do on the modeling form. A couple days later, I had the wonderful chance to briefly converse with him online on a modeling site where I have a portfolio up. There was a thread critiquing another photographer's work.
Him:
if you cant take criticism you shouldn't ask for it.
remarking tha tsomeone looks like "white trash" is not vulgar. if you and the broad who modelled for you wanna continue in the business ... ya might wanna think about toughening up. she looks like white trash. its a fact. i was not being rude, just honest. your photography loosk like a step down from the stuff they sell at the glamour shots booth at the mall. its a fact. get real with yourself and perhaps one day you'll find a way out of your trailer surroundings.
...
honestly ... shooting naked women for a living is difficult and depressing. more often than not these models have suffered past sexual traumas and i get to play the role of counselour for the duration of our shoot. i might have found it fun when i was 18 and horny, but now that ive grown up i dont find enjoyment in exploiting women's sexuality.
Me:
You know, I filled out your form a couple of days ago and was really hoping you'd be willing to shoot me. After reading a couple of choice quotes like the one above, I would never work with you.
Him:
ya know what i find funny. models i reject (you know, i didnt write ya back right?) who then tell me that they're rejecting me.
Me:
I had no idea that you'd rejected me. All I did was apply a couple of days ago. At any rate, looks like your decision not to shoot me works out for the both of us.
Him:
youre an unattractive girl who shouldn't be modelling, of course i rejected you. it amazes me how delusional models can be.
Me:
We all have our own opinions.
It is beyond me how someone can talk about the women he photographs in such a manner. I'd like to thank him for reminding me of the true meaning of exploitation(and general douchebaggery).
Oh, and a picture.
Photography by Bill; March 2006.
8 Comments:
it is sad enough that the mechanisms of the modern glamour/porn industry, the brutal objectification of human beings have taken their toll, on models (how could the idiocy of surgical remodelling of our bodies, become so widespread?) as well as photographers.
anyway, i like your pictures (thank you for sharing them with the world), and you should not work with photographers who don´t show respect for you. people are neither meat nor trash, and even if photographs can technically only depict the body and the outer surface, the skin, it is the job of the photographer to put life into it.
yeah, he's a wanker. i like the new hair.
Thanks for your comments, both of you. And, yes, he is a wanker.
Well Im waiting to be added to model mayhem. If your willing to do arty farty photos Im willing to shoot you. I dont know how will meet though.
Oh, don't you know...we meet every night in my dreams...
If timing's right, I'd defititely like to shoot with you, because you're awesome and an art appreciator like myself.
Candy, I have always wondered if women think about me sexually, they refuse to tell. My mistress at work is happy to see me in the morning. I always thought it was because I make her comfortable enough to talk about her secret interest in lesbian sex. I would like to know what you think. Anyway I was thinking yesterday about a photo series about societies views about menstruation. The series would start with traditional views and ending with something liberating and provocative. First photo: You nude in a dog cage but with blood stained white panties and two rabbies arguing with themselves (over you)in a typical home setting.
Your photo on my album has been looked at by 111 people, 4 people call it a favorite and 2 people say its "wonderful", "very nice". So your not ugly the world agrees.
I would never insult a model I would instead challenge myself to come up with a picture idea for the model perfect for her.
I don't do menstruation sets with anyone but myself and Ricky- which is why there are so few quality pics on seecandybleed- he's hesitant to shoot them. Although the idea is good. I'll let you know what ideas pop up in my mind.
Don't worry about the - hey, what's a word that doesn't make masturbation out to be bad (can't use wanker or jerk) - judgmental fool that didn't get back to you and got defensive. I wandered on to your site from janesguide and have really enjoyed it (actually, more for the content than the pics, but that's got nothing to do with the quality of the pics, which are quite good!). Shallow people who can not see the person behind the image really aren't that important
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